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Post by fu on Mar 22, 2013 14:50:29 GMT -5
3/25 - 3/27 I wonder why? Attachments:
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Post by TCU 2U2 on Mar 22, 2013 14:57:22 GMT -5
page 4 of the power point did say that FAA manuals would have to be revised and no time for reviews due to the shortage of time.
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Post by fu on Mar 22, 2013 15:00:47 GMT -5
Check out the dates at the top of the calendar March 25 2018 - April 5 2013. They really are clueless in DC.
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Post by vortlobe on Mar 22, 2013 15:44:14 GMT -5
Where did this document come from...was it leaked or published online?
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Post by stardustwx on Mar 22, 2013 15:49:14 GMT -5
The last part of the calendar mentions a telcom with Vendors. interesting.
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Post by snowspinner on Mar 22, 2013 15:59:27 GMT -5
I could not view it...where did you find it? Do you have a web address?
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Post by stardustwx on Mar 22, 2013 16:04:16 GMT -5
hmmm....well it's posted on the thread 7900.5C and there is a link. Click the link and see ifyou can save the document to view it. Not sure how to copy and paste since there is no URL, it's a document.
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Post by snowspinner on Mar 22, 2013 16:26:34 GMT -5
I'm trying to look at it on my cell phone...when is the vendor meeting?
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Post by stardustwx on Mar 22, 2013 17:00:51 GMT -5
around april 3
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Post by fu on Mar 22, 2013 17:03:13 GMT -5
I'm trying to look at it on my cell phone...when is the vendor meeting? According to the document 11am on Friday 4/5.
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Post by consltg on Mar 22, 2013 17:42:18 GMT -5
Don't mean to sound dumb, but exactly what does this mean? I'm assuming the FAA is re-writing the 7900.5C fot ATC to do Wx Obs. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Post by fu on Mar 22, 2013 17:57:10 GMT -5
I believe ATC use the 7900 at C level sites. They could be removing some sites from the snow measuring requirement. Whatever they are doing they blocked out quite a bit of time for it.
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Post by wxfcstr on Mar 23, 2013 1:26:11 GMT -5
The FAA is run amuck. First rewriting the ANG-C64 SOP standards by deleting the 2 year requirment for reclassifing Service Airprorts dated jan 2013. Which states Service A and B airports are required to do snow measurements and freezing precip. Service C is ATC and LAWRS. ATC cannot do snow from over 200 + feet in the air. hhahaha and then redoing the 7900.5b which just came out with Mod C. if you do not like the regs...just change it.
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Post by hlsto2 on Mar 23, 2013 11:47:31 GMT -5
This is what happens when a clueless congress says the FAA needs to be responsible for aviation weather. kinda like dumb and dumber. I hope the NWS is real happy they did not fight to keep the ASOS program. It has come back to bite them in the butt. I remember when I first hired on with the old Weather Bureau. The office was in the FAA building. FSS was across the hall from our office. In the hall was a pilot briefing display area with the maps provided by us. I was shocked to see FSS types attempting to brief pilots. Everywhere I went it was the same. In MCN, FSS was across the hall also. They finally built a super FSS across the street. We had to put a sign on our door that gave a 1-800 phone# for a briefing. We were no longer supposed to brief pilots except for a "general briefing". We would direct pilots across the street to the FSS and most wanted nothing to do with it.
As far as re-writing 7900..if they do intend to dump the professional core of CWO observers for FSS or ATC...then a major rewrite would be in order. a major dumb down. Obviously they would have to dump the snow requirement to start with. Get rid of service level A and B requirements...etc. My questions are: How are the controllers going to know when freezing pcpn is occurring? (ASOS MIGHT tell them)What about ice pellets? And are they going outside so they can see the TOTAL celestial dome...as we are required to do? If the tower is the ONLY observing position then that is the prevailing sfc vis...at 100-300 feet above the ground. bet they change that. and..how can someone take an obsevation from the tower cab which has a roof over it...they can only see out horizontally. But...hey...no degradation.
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Post by alstein on Mar 23, 2013 12:30:54 GMT -5
Trying to think on the bright side- the FAA might have decided that the impact between dumping the CWO and the contract tower would be similar at the bigger airports- and will save some of us (wouldn't be surprised if the B's go- I expect it)
What percentage of CWO's are B sites?
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