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Post by sluroots on Apr 16, 2013 13:37:54 GMT -5
Rockefeller: "I know the FAA will never compromise safety".
REALLY!!?? Still waiting to hear any CWO mention.
Another: "I will seek appropiate money to fund the FAA"
"it's the continued commitment to safety that makes the FAA above anyone else."
THIS IS GONNA BE A LONG hearing if they say they stuff. I guess it's good but then again it could be all hot air. *Note some of these quotes are as best I could as listening and typing. I am not a shorthand secretary!!
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Post by swifterz on Apr 16, 2013 13:54:48 GMT -5
After listening to some of the opening statements so far, I would be surprised if anything about CWO program comes up. I hope I'm wrong and all the hard work of members of this board have been doing for sometime has made its way into the right hands. :-(
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Post by sluroots on Apr 16, 2013 13:56:53 GMT -5
I agree swifterz. Boeing 787 gonna be a bigger thing.
Opening line from administrator of FAA summarized. "Saftey is the number one priority of the FAA. it is our mission, 24/7". Riiiiighhht.. B/c eliminating CWO wouldn't compromise that at all.
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Post by coldlover on Apr 16, 2013 14:07:46 GMT -5
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. For those not watching--- better off watching paint dry.
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Post by sluroots on Apr 16, 2013 14:08:19 GMT -5
First mention of weather monitoring comes from Hersman from the NTSB relating to HEMS (helicopter med flights). She may be a good person to contact if we don't get mentioned, if noboday has already.
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Post by sluroots on Apr 16, 2013 14:10:36 GMT -5
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. For those not watching--- better off watching paint dry. Did you really think that this meeting would be entertaining?!? Welcome to everyday meetings in D.C.! Don't you watch CSPAN every day!? ;D
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Post by sluroots on Apr 16, 2013 14:33:34 GMT -5
Seems like Senator Bunt at least follows the weather, and understands weather affects aviation safety! He mentioned (in relation to furloughed employees), that there is no fairness on bad weather days. This was at about the 1:13:00 mark for those that rewind or re-watch the broadcast.
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Post by stardustwx on Apr 16, 2013 15:03:37 GMT -5
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. For those not watching--- better off watching paint dry. bummer...can't get it to load on office computer
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Post by okie on Apr 16, 2013 15:53:08 GMT -5
I didn't care for all the ego-stroking during the first 30 minutes or so, but overall I found the hearing to be somewhat informative and entertaining. Sadly, the contract weather program never seemed to come up, but it did seem as if Senator Bunt was sympathetic to our cause, given his concern for both aviation safety and the prioritization of essential bad-weather personnel. I don't recall the lady's name, but I particularly enjoyed the discussion regarding the requirement to turn off electronics in the cabin during take off and landing, as she made a number of good points in a rather straight-forward manner. I didn't know anything about Michael Huerta going into this hearing, but I found his answers to be somewhat satisfactory given the questions presented to him. I really wish the cwo program would have been addressed directly, but regardless as to whatever the final outcome ends up being, I am somewhat comforted by the lip-service offered regarding the commitment to aviation safety and human resources.
And really, that lip service is what more or less sums up this entire hearing. Their words say one thing, but will their actions say another? That remains to be seen. The cwo program has been under threat of elimination for many years now, but honestly I don't think any of this would have come to pass so quickly if not for sequestration. By exempting significant portions of the DOT and FAA budgets, a disproportionate amount of the required cuts are coming at the expense of the overall operational budget, which itself consists mostly of human resources, whether FAA or contract employees. I am a bit more optimistic that most of the cwo program will survive the remainder of this fiscal year, but unless congress gives the FAA more budgetary discretion in future budgets, I don't see us going very much forward into future fiscal years. Or at least that is more or less what I got out of the hearing.
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Post by thecatalyst on Apr 16, 2013 15:59:18 GMT -5
I didn't care for all the ego-stroking during the first 30 minutes or so, but overall I found the hearing to be somewhat informative and entertaining. Sadly, the contract weather program never seemed to come up, but it did seem as if Senator Bunt was sympathetic to our cause, given his concern for both aviation safety and the prioritization of essential bad-weather personnel. I don't recall the lady's name, but I particularly enjoyed the discussion regarding the requirement to turn off electronics in the cabin during take off and landing, as she made a number of good points in a rather straight-forward manner. I didn't know anything about Michael Huerta going into this hearing, but I found his answers to be somewhat satisfactory given the questions presented to him. I really wish the cwo program would have been addressed directly, but regardless as to whatever the final outcome ends up being, I am somewhat comforted by the lip-service offered regarding the commitment to aviation safety and human resources. And really, that lip service is what more or less sums up this entire hearing. Their words say one thing, but will their actions say another? That remains to be seen. The cwo program has been under threat of elimination for many years now, but honestly I don't think any of this would have come to pass so quickly if not for sequestration. By exempting significant portions of the DOT and FAA budgets, a disproportionate amount of the required cuts are coming at the expense of the overall operational budget, which itself consists mostly of human resources, whether FAA or contract employees. I am a bit more optimistic that most of the cwo program will survive the remainder of this fiscal year, but unless congress gives the FAA more budgetary discretion in future budgets, I don't see us going very much forward into future fiscal years. Or at least that is more or less what I got out of the hearing. Huerta himself said that Essential Flight Services is exempt from Sequestration. Doesn't the CWO fall into that category?
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Post by kukblue1 on Apr 16, 2013 16:10:11 GMT -5
Please turn off your device while the plane is landing and taking off. It's more of a distraction more than anything else. If they plane goes down do you want to get out quickly or wait for someone to finish their text then open the emergency exit. Please you can live without if for 20 minutes
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Post by okie on Apr 16, 2013 16:26:06 GMT -5
Huerta himself said that Essential Flight Services is exempt from Sequestration. Doesn't the CWO fall into that category? One would think so, but apparently it isn't or else the program wouldn't be held hostage like this. What sort of confused me was the division of three operational budgetary categories: one dealing with some sort of communications area, a second dealing with flight services including weather briefings, and the contract tower program constituting the third largest. It is my understanding that the cwo program is joined at the hip with the contract tower program, but the mentioning of weather briefings in the second flight services category has me a bit perplexed. I am thinking that probably has something to do with pilots getting flight weather support from a FAA funded program that is independent from ours, but that in itself makes me wonder how they will be able to provide reasonable current and forecast weather from point of departure to point of arrival if the weather data, supplied by ASOS and ATC personnel, becomes corrupted or missing altogether. My guess is that flight weather briefings are exempted, but not the cwo program. If anything good comes out of this mess, hopefully it will be more clarity and transparency regarding the nuts and bolts that make up our world of aviation weather. If nothing else, I have developed a greater appreciation for my career, for however long the cwo program should remain in tact.
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Post by sluroots on Apr 16, 2013 16:34:04 GMT -5
I paid close attention to the top three budget categories as well. IF we are not in the top three, that means if they save the tower program they are going to be looking elsewhere and we can't be that far down the list, which would be problematic for us.
Overall, I thought the three that seem to be on our side somewhat, or at least knew that weather is related and important to aviation safety were Senator Bunt and Cantwell. The NTSB lady also had a few remarks that led me to believe she was on our side a bit.
Huerta, to me, sounded like he was dodging the tough questions and gave the typical "safety is our top priority" BS response, when we all know they are conidering jeopardizing aviation safety.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2013 16:37:14 GMT -5
Huerta himself said that Essential Flight Services is exempt from Sequestration. Doesn't the CWO fall into that category? One would think so, but apparently it isn't or else the program wouldn't be held hostage like this. What sort of confused me was the division of three operational budgetary categories: one dealing with some sort of communications area, a second dealing with flight services including weather briefings, and the contract tower program constituting the third largest. It is my understanding that the cwo program is joined at the hip with the contract tower program, but the mentioning of weather briefings in the second flight services category has me a bit perplexed. I am thinking that probably has something to do with pilots getting flight weather support from a FAA funded program that is independent from ours, but that in itself makes me wonder how they will be able to provide reasonable current and forecast weather from point of departure to point of arrival if the weather data, supplied by ASOS and ATC personnel, becomes corrupted or missing altogether. My guess is that flight weather briefings are exempted, but not the cwo program. If anything good comes out of this mess, hopefully it will be more clarity and transparency regarding the nuts and bolts that make up our world of aviation weather. If nothing else, I have developed a greater appreciation for my career, for however long the cwo program should remain in tact. www.afss.com/index.cfm?regid=%23%2E%40%2C%2E%0A&fwnavid=%23%2EP%2C%29%0A&navMode=%28%3FT%3D%3A%28Y%3EJ%3B1%5C%20%0A
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Post by okie on Apr 16, 2013 16:42:26 GMT -5
Interesting, much of this looks similar to what I did while in the Navy. To clarify, I wasn't the duty forecaster but I did a lot of the preparatory work.
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