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Post by deltamiketango on Apr 25, 2013 20:44:53 GMT -5
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Post by deltamiketango on Apr 25, 2013 20:46:32 GMT -5
The Bill--as written-- states the funds will come from the infrastructure projects program to offset the costs of furloughs and smaller tower closures.
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Post by TCU 2U2 on Apr 25, 2013 21:21:27 GMT -5
I doubt it ... the CWO closing has no connection to sequester or furloughs. This attempt to close is one of about five attempts to close us down since the FAA took over from the NWS in the mid 1990's.
This attempt is the strongest to date and is based on the 2009 OES review of the program, which stated as a conclusion of "now is the time to convert to LAWRS in FY13" ... and this is where we sit.
Many holes have been and will continue to be punched into the flawed 2009 OES report.
The one thing the 2009 report did not account for is the public and Congress dislike for the agency, which began right after sequester began March 1 ... the announced closings of the contract towers (now pushed back to at least June 15) and the furloughs of the FAA and other agencies.
This is our greatest gift ... FAA in the spotlight coupled with leaks from headquaters with all that we have, evidence wise, to date.
Think about it ... all the info we have has not been handed through normal channels, but in bits and drabs ... and we did question this and question that - but in the end, we did not discard any of it (about 6 items to date).
Bottom line ... there are many more at headquarters that want us to survive, then not. And most, if not all in the field want us to survive, as they use the data we report and they know what will happen if we are gone.
The bean counters have their job ... we have ours.
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Post by kukblue1 on Apr 25, 2013 21:23:45 GMT -5
In someways I think it might hurt. We now have a harder time saying that they are short staffed and can't be burden with doing our jobs. They will now have to find cuts somewhere else now that furloughs are not happening. Then again they get 253 million our program is what 58 million so that still leaves them a little under 200 million. Seems like a lot to me.
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Post by zoomthundersnow on Apr 25, 2013 21:29:02 GMT -5
TCU 2U2, Has anyone had any success in finding who was interviewed and where, concerning the 2009 OES review document? That is powerful.
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Post by TCU 2U2 on Apr 26, 2013 3:39:54 GMT -5
FOIA request still pending
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Post by coldlover on Apr 26, 2013 5:07:58 GMT -5
I understand as TCU 2U2 mentions "the CWO closing has no connection to sequester or furloughs". But we certainly indirectly do and may be swept under the rug as it appears all is clean with FCT towers staying opening , no more furloughs etc..
The potential $200+ million to remove the furloughed ATC and fund it for the 11 remaining pay periods of this fiscal year seems awful high.
8 hr days x $50 avg pay per hr (very high = at $400 a day)
15,000 controllers times $400 = 6 million a per period.
6,000,000 times 11 pay periods = 66 million to end of fiscal year.
If the CWO is somehow tied to the sequester ,, then 130 million for the rest of the fiscal yr should be plenty for it and many other programs. But then again, what do I know?
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Post by alstein on Apr 26, 2013 5:19:47 GMT -5
We could very easily make a case that the CWO was tied to the sequester, simply from contracts being offered pre-sequester, and "disputes" post-sequester. If it was due to contractor disputes, then they would have been re-awarded.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2013 7:46:51 GMT -5
www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-25/faa-furloughs-would-end-under-senate-funding-proposal.htmlThe American Association of Airport Executives, an Alexandria, Virginia-based trade group representing more than 5,000 airport operators and businesses, said today it would object to any plan that takes funds from airports to make up for budget cuts. “AAAE is supportive of ending the controller furloughs caused by sequestration, but not by raiding the FAA’s capital account to pay for operating expenses,” President Todd Hauptli said in an e-mail. Airport Grants The FAA gave $3.5 billion in grants to airports in its 2012 budget. That money, which comes from taxes on airline tickets and aviation fuel, is exempt from budget cuts under sequestration.
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Post by kukblue1 on Apr 26, 2013 9:21:30 GMT -5
There is a thought. Add $1 to ever ticket sold in this country and wouldn't you have enough for everyone? Towers, CWO, Controllers. How many tickets are sold everyday. Anyone have that number?
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Post by snowspinner on Apr 26, 2013 9:36:04 GMT -5
Ask the people that fly whether they should pay a $1 for all of those services...95% would probably say yes.
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Post by hokiefan on Apr 26, 2013 9:40:55 GMT -5
Something similar was in the Obama budget:
The budget again contains a proposal for a $100 per-flight fee “to more equitably distribute the cost of air traffic services across the aviation user community,” beginning after Sept. 30. The fee has become a perennial request in Obama's budgets, but Congress has yet to show any desire to enact such a fee. A letter spearheaded by House of Representatives GA Caucus co-chairmen Sam Graves (R-Mo.) and John Barrow (D-Ga.) to President Obama in opposition of the fee garnered 223 congressional signatures, above the 218 needed to pass a bill, indicating the provision stands little chance of becoming law.
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Post by hokiefan on Apr 26, 2013 9:42:45 GMT -5
Basically it would be considered a new tax....and we all know how this Congress loves the idea of raising taxes...Penny wise and dollar foolish
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Post by lostsheep on Apr 26, 2013 11:56:49 GMT -5
Penny wise and dollar foolish Hokiefan,more like .25 and four dollars foolish  |
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Post by snowspinner on Apr 26, 2013 12:05:34 GMT -5
The house passed the bill...does that make us safe or does it speed up the transfer process?  |
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