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Post by skobie on Oct 28, 2016 13:48:00 GMT -5
Warning: the attached information contains "bullshit", which may be hazardous to your health. Good luck with them carrying this one out.....but at least they've finally admitted there are problems with LAWRS observations. Maybe we should send them our QC inventory to help these pencil pushers out. skobie LAWRS Return to Compliance 2.pdf (365.1 KB) |
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Post by hlsto2 on Oct 28, 2016 16:08:17 GMT -5
how come they are not writing up lawrs for not turning on aldars...or lawrs signing off before TS activity arrives at the ap? or lawrs allowing UP to be transmitted...or...or...the list goes on and on.
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Post by skobie on Oct 28, 2016 16:20:47 GMT -5
Because they can write all the memos they want to look like they're addressing the problem, but until a mistake is punitive, nothing will get done. Of course, since a LAWRS ATCer has the PRIMARY responsibility of ground and air control, they cannot do the job of CWO too, notwithstanding the lack of training, experience, or knowhow! What a joke. I believe this memo/guilty plea will help prove our point on this.
skobie
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Post by swifterz on Oct 28, 2016 17:42:50 GMT -5
"OCCASIONALLY" We like to send out memo's to make it look like we really care about this program and not wanting to close it......
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Post by hlsto2 on Oct 29, 2016 0:50:44 GMT -5
I am comforted by the fact that we can let bad data get transmitted...and send a copy to the 3 stooges...and they will investigate!
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Post by snowwx on Nov 1, 2016 2:02:55 GMT -5
With over 1200 pages of operational weather errors,( if you printed all the errors up) which are noted here, by LAWRS stations ...the memo should read..."the audits confirm that MOST, not some LAWRS facilities are not in compliance...... additionally where the word occasionally occurs should be... CONSTANTLY, controllers do not back up...CONSTANTLY controllers do not sign on....CONSTANTLY controllers are improperly coding elements.......
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Post by snowwx on Nov 1, 2016 4:59:17 GMT -5
Keep in mind this memo is just another attempt to try to get the LAWRS program to look the same as the CWO program...additionally, the ALDARS fiasco is along those same lines ,as well...They want the CWOs and LAWRS to look the same so they can say...Looky looky, the program is the same , therefore we can get rid of the CWOs with no degrading...keep this is mind...all of us here know very good and well, there are underhanded practices going on now to undermine the CWO program and they are desperately trying to come up with something that they can prove to congress that all the safety issues have been addressed...they (the FAA) have less than 4 months to come up with something, because in order to toss the CWOs on the list Natca demands a 6 month notice and they want 6 months to train for LAWRS...hence the battle will begin in March for a September 30 closure...so people get prepared for more stupidity...this crap will continue until ,either these clowns get tossed in the new administration or somebody in the FAA wises up and realizes that the CWO personnel (meteorologists, forecasters, degreed people...not just weather weenies) are an ASSET and not liabilities to the SAFETY of the National Airspace...As a pilot, FAA, I do not trust the LAWRS program or controllers doing weather observations...and the shenanigans that you are trying to pull...it would behoove you to stop the ALDARS fiasco and let the CWOs handle it professionally.NOW!...
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Post by skobie on Nov 1, 2016 8:32:18 GMT -5
Very good and well said snowwx, especially from somebody with your background! There will be opportunities coming around shortly for us all to ward off the FAA in their next attempt to underhandedly monkey with the CWO Program. See your SWO in a couple of days and they will fill you in. We'd like to be proactive instead of reactive this time around.
skobie
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Post by toofarnorth on Nov 1, 2016 15:38:56 GMT -5
I've already contacted my Congressman, Alaska Airmen's, Alaska AOPA, and Alaska Aviation Safety Foundation... Senators very soon, as soon as I can confirm this: heard from my runway contractor that the FAA is in negotiations with the State of Alaska DOT to downgrade airport classifications - this will result in MANY bad things happening, including the closure of CWOs. FAA says it needs to cut costs... they should start with cutting their management staff. I think they will likely try the SRMP route again, but airport classifications are a whole 'nother animal - a downgrade at my site would shutter our whole village for 7 months of the year and remove more than that of our local economy as well. I wish this were a chuckle folks, but it could come to your airport...
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Post by TCU 2U2 on Nov 2, 2016 7:22:45 GMT -5
I've already contacted my Congressman, Alaska Airmen's, Alaska AOPA, and Alaska Aviation Safety Foundation... Senators very soon, as soon as I can confirm this: heard from my runway contractor that the FAA is in negotiations with the State of Alaska DOT to downgrade airport classifications - this will result in MANY bad things happening, including the closure of CWOs. FAA says it needs to cut costs... they should start with cutting their management staff. I think they will likely try the SRMP route again, but airport classifications are a whole 'nother animal - a downgrade at my site would shutter our whole village for 7 months of the year and remove more than that of our local economy as well. I wish this were a chuckle folks, but it could come to your airport... HWO Resource Allocation Methodology Brief v1.pdf ... posted August 7, 2015 at 1:12pm HWO Resource Allocation Strategy • Step 1 – Conducted an SRM panel July 2014, to revise the Service Standards algorithm. One hazard was identified and mitigated. – Confirmed locations where HWOs (LAWRS Controller, Contract Weather Observer, NF-OBS) are required in the Continental US, Hawaii, and Alaska – NWS Removed 4 Aviation Paid (A-PAIDs) Weather Observing Stations in Alaska • Closed as of September 30, 2014 – SRMD was revised to remove Alaska facilities from
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Post by toofarnorth on Nov 2, 2016 15:35:47 GMT -5
Thanks TCU. It pays to talk to your Congressman! I may be a bit premature in sounding the alarm over reclassifications. Spoke with State Rural Airports Manager this AM, he will research and confirm to me soon if this is contemplated, in the works, or just paranoid runway contractor... and I believed it? Worth investigating if true.
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Post by toofarnorth on Nov 3, 2016 14:25:47 GMT -5
State Rural Airports Manager confirms no airport reclassifications in Alaska at this time, except Galena, whose runway will be shortened in the process of major repairs to the runway lighting. Definitely a case of paranoia in the runway contractor, perhaps in me too.
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