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7900.5D
Jan 31, 2017 22:01:20 GMT -5
Post by snowspinner on Jan 31, 2017 22:01:20 GMT -5
I just got the finalized version from my boss...time to go through it with a fine tooth comb.
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7900.5D
Feb 1, 2017 13:06:44 GMT -5
Post by weatheri on Feb 1, 2017 13:06:44 GMT -5
Anyone have the phone number and address for Air Traffic Services? That is where we send our FAA Form 1320-19. 1.9. User Responsibilities. Employee participation in directive writing and upkeep activities is encouraged. Any user who finds a subject matter conflict, an error, obsolete information, or who would like to make recommendations or suggestions should notify Air Traffic Services, in writing. FAA Form 1320-19, Directive Feedback Information, is available for this purpose. If clarification or correction is urgently needed, you may call Air Traffic Services for guidance, but you should also use the FAA Form 1320-19 as a follow-up to verbal conversation.
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7900.5D
Feb 1, 2017 13:09:45 GMT -5
Post by tornado on Feb 1, 2017 13:09:45 GMT -5
Paragraph 1.4 is in error. 2014 should read 2012.
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7900.5D
Feb 1, 2017 13:29:52 GMT -5
Post by tornado on Feb 1, 2017 13:29:52 GMT -5
Table 2-1 added a footnote: ...to the "Time of Beginning/Ending of Thunderstorms" blocks. To be consistent, wouldn't that mean VCTS counts in the TSB/TSE times?
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7900.5D
Feb 1, 2017 13:59:07 GMT -5
Post by hokiefan on Feb 1, 2017 13:59:07 GMT -5
Well, they might have that corrected when the 7900.5Z is released.
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7900.5D
Feb 1, 2017 15:12:02 GMT -5
Post by skobie on Feb 1, 2017 15:12:02 GMT -5
lmao hokiefan!
skobie
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7900.5D
Feb 1, 2017 20:09:04 GMT -5
Post by hlsto2 on Feb 1, 2017 20:09:04 GMT -5
I had made up an error list way back for 5B...that wasn't fixed in 5C. in 5D...they fixed ONE.
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Post by tornado on Feb 2, 2017 9:07:13 GMT -5
Manual observations must now be kept electronically.
Supervisors can temporarily suspend an observer’s certificate.
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7900.5D
Feb 2, 2017 12:12:23 GMT -5
Post by skobie on Feb 2, 2017 12:12:23 GMT -5
Careful though, as at Union sites, the SWO is technically called the Lead Observer (not Supervisory). The Lead is part of the same Union as others at the site and cannot fire, hire, discipline, or recommend. The Supervisor to the Lead and other observers would be someone higher up in the company. I would certainly hope they'd work with the observer in question anyway or perhaps that person is not cut out for the job.
skobie
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7900.5D
Feb 2, 2017 12:29:13 GMT -5
Post by weatherwatcher on Feb 2, 2017 12:29:13 GMT -5
A question has been brought to my attention: When ALDARS reports ex: LTG DSNT E Do we have to report CB DSNT E? We have been reporting the CB at my station but I have been made aware that some sights are not and just leaving it blank. I cannot find in the "D" where it states it. To me its always just been common knowledge that if you have DSNT LTG you will have a DSNT CB
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7900.5D
Feb 2, 2017 12:50:54 GMT -5
Post by hlsto2 on Feb 2, 2017 12:50:54 GMT -5
Manual observations must now be kept electronically. Supervisors can temporarily suspend an observer’s certificate. we have been doing our manual obs on the computer form for several years now. how can a person trained to talk to pilots suspend a certificate? and why have many LAWRS sites not had their certificates suspended?
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7900.5D
Feb 2, 2017 13:01:08 GMT -5
Post by skobie on Feb 2, 2017 13:01:08 GMT -5
Good question, hlsto2. Probably because there would be few, if any, LAWRS Observers left to take actual observations!
skobie
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7900.5D
Feb 2, 2017 13:11:14 GMT -5
Post by tornado on Feb 2, 2017 13:11:14 GMT -5
. how can a person trained to talk to pilots suspend a certificate? and why have many LAWRS sites not had their certificates suspended? Somebody suspended certificates at Philip Billard Municipal Airport in Topeka, Kansas: | Audit Date | LOCID | Facility Type | Vendor | Problems | Rating | Corrective Actions | Follow-up | 2 | 8/14/16 | TOP | FCT LAWRS | Midwest ATC | NWS Complaint 1. Desk Audit 7/16- 8/13 2. Controllers not signed on ASOS 68 times 3. 99 Observations missing and not backed up by controllers 4. TSNO ALDARS not enabled | NH | 1. Telcon with Vendor and DM 2. Decertified all controllers requiring retraining and examination | 8/26, Midwest ATC reported 3 of the 4 TOP controllers recertified for LAWRS and backing up the ASOS. CLOSED |
That report was from AJT-21, so maybe it was inspectors from that office who did so.
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7900.5D
Feb 2, 2017 13:38:57 GMT -5
Post by skobie on Feb 2, 2017 13:38:57 GMT -5
That alone, above, would be enough to get an entire CWO office fired. Where's the QC Plan for LAWRS stations and what's an acceptable, monthly error free rate??? The FMH-1 states very clearly in the first few pages that a QC Plan is the single-most important part of taking surface weather observations. The monthly error-free rate should be known ahead of time and if they can't hack it after 2 months, they're gone and no more taking "weather observations" (and I use that term loosely at a LAWRS site to begin with)! It's really that simple. Can you imagine if all the CWO sites mimicked the average LAWRS site for just a month? There'd be hell to pay and we'd all be out of jobs. What fate did the obstrollers at the above LAWRS site suffer? None. They were simply "re-trained" so they could live another day to majorly screw up again. That's not how this works. Get a clue AJT and stop the nonsense of having different standards for people who are performing (or trying to perform in the case of LAWRS sites) the same job, not to mention that LAWRS sites don't have to even follow half the augmenting/back-up rules that CWOs do. And quit making up crap that a major error is having ALDARS turned off at CWO sites because it's AJT-21's baby (probably getting some sort of kick-back to promote the piece of junk too). That's not a major operational error. The crap above is!
skobie
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Post by tornado on Apr 5, 2017 9:22:58 GMT -5
The example of "LTG AT AP" was removed in the D version: Yet, no reference was made to that change, in Appendix K, "Explanation of Changes". The change was to Table 3-2, but the only explanation is: "Table 3.2, removed the requirement for more than a trace of precipitation on the ground within the past 6 hours from snow depth reporting requirements." Paragraph 10-7 still reads: Why take out LTG AT AP as an example? Does someone not like the precision CWOs provide?
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