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Post by kukblue1 on Feb 2, 2013 19:25:16 GMT -5
Wish you guys luck. We tried all that at south bend with no luck. Number 2 in total snow fall for 2010 with over 110 inches. 24 inches in one day. Bad weather all the time in winter due to being so close to Lake Michigan. They didn't care. Shut us down anyway.
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Post by snowwx on Feb 3, 2013 15:38:25 GMT -5
And look at the mess South Bend has now...Total garbage coming out of it, while they (ATC) still signs in with XX and then goes home...The FAA, as you well know, is endorsing FRAUD at SBN...Somebody really needs to clean house with the FAA and its corruption...
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Post by kukblue1 on Feb 3, 2013 16:46:49 GMT -5
I have called all local media about it and NTSB in chicago about it and no one seems to care that they are staying logged on at night.
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Post by artension on Feb 3, 2013 17:20:27 GMT -5
kukblue1,
I can't disagree with you...its likely to be futile. I guess I am mainly interested in the way these changes got made/approved. Seems kinda sneaky how it went down...but that is not unusual.
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Post by artension on Feb 4, 2013 9:14:32 GMT -5
Every station on the list for the May 1st decommission should make sure to go into the latest report and check their airport score, which consists of 6 sub-category scores totaled together. Pay special attention to the ILS score which can add as much as 2 points to the airport score for those stations with Cat III ILS. Some stations have no score, however, due to having a Cat I ILS, while Cat II ILS stations get 1 point. Don't stop with just checking the approach plates or calling your local tower, especially if you had a new tower built in the last 15 years.
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Post by alwayswx on Feb 4, 2013 21:28:16 GMT -5
What exactly is used to get the scores of a 6 or 7. I am new to this board and trying to fiqure out how the levels are obtained.
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Post by fu on Feb 4, 2013 22:00:58 GMT -5
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Post by foobar on Feb 5, 2013 18:36:38 GMT -5
One of our observers, a former FAA controller, has a possible solution to contract station closings: if the FAA controllers do not become LARS certified, they will not be able to perform Level C augmentation and backup.
Not as weird as it might seem at first. Controllers don't want to do augmentation any more than observers want them to. It wouldn't be hard for them to fail their exams if they choose to. It may seem a stretch, but it is a possibility. Also, the May 1st closing date was probably chosen, in part, to get the controllers all certified. If they fail the exams, they will have to wait another three months to retest.
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Post by artension on Feb 5, 2013 20:35:24 GMT -5
I would bet, foobar, that FAA will just post another change to the SOP's waiving the 3-month retest period.....hehehehe.
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Post by stardustwx on Feb 6, 2013 17:24:35 GMT -5
Not only that foobar, if faced with furlogh or picking up wx obs, my guess is they would suck it up and do the obs.
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Post by foobar on Feb 15, 2013 21:15:14 GMT -5
1) There won't be any FAA furloughs any time soon, with the hiring freeze.
2) The controllers have not been notified that they will be required to become LARS certified and perform Level C augmentation and backup at our airport.
Not that the FAA couldn't find a way around it, but so far, the controllers have been out of the loop.
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Post by artension on Feb 28, 2013 23:40:07 GMT -5
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Post by TCU 2U2 on Mar 1, 2013 8:53:14 GMT -5
The updated version of the SOP ... apps.avmet.com/awad/Service%20Standards%20v2-4_signed.pdf ... now moves the "tie-breaker" up to those sites scoring an 8. See section 7.4. The tie-breaker will determine if the site will be given A or B level service, however the new contract (when it ever goes into effect is anyone's guess) did require all CWO's to provide A level service. So in summary:Scores of 9 or higher are A level Scores of 8 are either A or B level (pending on tie-breaker) Scores of 7 are B level Scores of 6 and below are C or D level The updated industry report for 2012 is now included on the AWAD website. apps.avmet.com/awad/AWADReport.cfmAlso, the 2 year rule of maintaining any given service level before being assigned that level, has been eliminated. |
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Post by alstein on Mar 2, 2013 3:09:44 GMT -5
So this means if a site goes down from a B to a C, it's instantly gone and won't have one year to bring it back up?
I could see sequestration screwing some sites if this happens.
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Post by artension on Mar 2, 2013 11:40:49 GMT -5
Yes, indeed. alstein. They even put it to work right away, by announcing the closing May 1st of 15 stations, most, if not all, who fit that description. Not wasting any time.
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