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Post by alstein on Jan 23, 2023 15:16:29 GMT -5
Did something new come out? Everything I've heard said probably still in their long-term plans, but short-term they just can't, especially with all the bigger alarms with the FAA and the ATC issues.
the last thing they need is another headache that might tip things into causing heads to roll.
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Post by northwx on Jan 30, 2023 19:58:21 GMT -5
Did something new come out? Everything I've heard said probably still in their long-term plans, but short-term they just can't, especially with all the bigger alarms with the FAA and the ATC issues. the last thing they need is another headache that might tip things into causing heads to roll. First thing to note is that the creator of this thread gives every appearance of being an FAA employee. There is no new news on this subject, but some in management behave as if they want to close us all. We did secure language in the FAA Reauthorization Act preventing them from expending any funds on closures - which they can't do without spending something. |
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Post by hlsto2 on Mar 22, 2023 13:02:47 GMT -5
with all the near misses lately...they will probably put any cwo closures on the back burner
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Post by chachiman on Apr 25, 2023 22:03:30 GMT -5
Let's put this thread to REST! As long as I am a contract weather observer and President of the USCWOA, the FAA will NEVER be able to close ANY CWOs. As a matter of fact, I am currently working with many Senators and Representatives within Congress to expand the CWO Program in the near future. There are talks on Capitol Hill right now starting on a new FAA Reauthorization and we have some folks already willing to sponsor language for us for that upcoming legislation. And we are protected for the remainder of the current Reauthorization that will more than likely be extended come October 1, 2023.
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Post by alstein on Apr 25, 2023 22:22:24 GMT -5
Does expand mean new sites?
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Post by movedsouth on May 7, 2023 21:33:12 GMT -5
Does expand mean new sites? That's the idea. We're far more important than some in the FAA realize. Go for it USCWOA! |
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Post by movedsouth on Sept 17, 2023 4:50:01 GMT -5
Yes, the FAA is scheming to close us all, incrementally. Contracting Officer Cilony Alejandro said as much in a recent telcon with the USCWOA. Chachiman has a plan, and we owe the Association a big debt of gratitude for keeping our program open - if you aren't a member, please sign up, we need you! Alejandro appears to be the front for denying approval of new CBAs in violation of a number of labor laws - I don't know who is pulling her strings, but her task is to close us and minimize any expense we are to the FAA. Forget equipment or new chairs... The FAA is proceeding as if Congress and their instruction not to spend money to close us and their intent to not close or diminish us at all simply has no force or effect. Ms Alejandro laughed when we brought it up. FAA is preparing new metrics for a services standards study that appears to be designed to shutter us through bogus manipulation of statistics. We'll win the Reauthorization battle, but the war ain't over folks. BTW, Alejandro seems to be a nice person, other than being arrogantly firm in stating our imminent demise...
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Post by sensored on Oct 8, 2023 9:53:11 GMT -5
She can laugh all she wants….right into contempt of Congress charges….which is a jailable offense … until such a time the FAA considers the CWO program a professional unit of the ATO it will be treated as a group of weather weenies only… additionally this is a continuation of the ongoing battle between the FAA and the NWS anyway over the last 60 years. Remember the FAA tried to shut down the CWSUs as well … they think that they are gods of weather and no one else can or will do but ATCers. The all mighty Atcer. Another story in itself
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Post by movedsouth on Nov 22, 2023 22:11:23 GMT -5
Folks, the silence is deafening! No new CBAs, nothing but continuation resolutions from Congress failing to increase FAA funding, no new equipment, maintenance failing, hyperinflation and no pay raises. Something needs to give very soon, or legal action is our next move - which will take a class-action. ready to put your money where our mouths are?
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Post by sensored on Jan 4, 2024 2:36:08 GMT -5
As there is a new FAA administrator, who signed off the CWO program back when they tried to close 57 stations, he will be at it again…be assured of that…
As we were reading the senate version of the FAA reauthorization bill, there are concerning language there. As it is written, it gives an “out” to the FAA to Claim they have better technology than humans and will use that clause to Lie and deceive the user groups and public , once again as they did back in 2013, and 2015…That clause of technology advancement should be eliminated, IMO, and you know very good and well, the FAA will not report to congress if they come up with bogus claims of new technology better than humans…the last time they were commanded to report to congress, the administrator blew them off…actually, when he did testify into congress he had no clue his minions were trying to shut down the CWO program…I would conclude that this new administrator is behind the move to stop pay raises and telling Alejandro to reject all agreements until June 1… Their bottom line goal, is to treat the people of the CWOs as second class citizens and not treat the CWO program as a PROFESSIONAL unit of the ATO…. All I have to say to that is “Hey Dipstick, we are a big Safety Asset that needs to be treated as such, and NOT a Liability…Treat people as equal, and not like idiots…we get treated bad enough from young thing ATCers who are full of ego and have know-it-all attitudes… and don’t lie about how good ASLOP/ASOS is …its 30 years old + and does not handle weather well at all…and there is no technology out there now that can replace human interaction, the weather is too fluid to have an algorithm and a computer say its a fact…this is one reason why the Mesonet program has flourished in parts of the country , of course the FAA could care less about that, because it NWS…The only thing the FAA cares about is money and how big whigs can pocket more of it and ATC demands from NATCA…
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