cirrus
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Post by cirrus on Sept 12, 2014 9:02:55 GMT -5
Just wondering how long it usually takes to fill a position after someone quits? And how much notice do people
usually give the company before they leave.
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Post by fu on Sept 12, 2014 10:02:35 GMT -5
Just wondering how long it usually takes to fill a position after someone quits? And how much notice do people usually give the company before they leave. It varies. If possible hire someone who is already certified and has been cleared by FAA security since that can take awhile if it needs to be done. |
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Post by weatheri on Sept 12, 2014 10:12:07 GMT -5
We have always receive at least 60 days notice when someone is leaving.
These times are based on the old NWS certification.
To bring a person on board depends on his/her past experience.
If the person never worked for the FAA or the airport, it can be months.
4-8 weeks for the FAA security clearance
2-5 weeks to schedule and take the weather test
1-3 weeks after taking the test for the grading and certificate
2-6 weeks to schedule and accomplish the local airport requirements and obtain an airport ID badge (such as finger printing, back ground check, schedule to take the security protocol class and test, and finally schedule and complete the appointment to get the photo taken and the ID badge)
3-6 weeks to get the FAA badge
The fastest time we were ever able to accomplish the above are listed. If items done concurrently, the fastest we were able to accomplish everything was 10 weeks.
The longest time it took each item is listed above. Even while doing things concurrently it once took 23 weeks without a retake for the NWS test, so that would be the extreme high end number.
To bring someone on board with a valid FAA ID Badge and already certified as an observer.
1-2 weeks to get the site added to their certificate
2-6 weeks to get the local airport requirements accomplished and obtain an airport ID badge
Now that is just for our site. I'm sure this varies and since everything switched over to the FAA from NWS, I have no idea. We have not brought in a person "off the street" in over 10 years. Once the process is explained to a potential employee, they look at you like you are nuts especially since most start as a part time individual working 1 day a week. That is why we usually fill vacant part time positions with a "Rover" employee.
Good Luck!
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cirrus
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Post by cirrus on Sept 12, 2014 10:30:46 GMT -5
Has anyone ever filled a position from this board? And wondering if its usually up to the Supervisor to
get the position filled or do Company's help find someone.
I think 30 days notice should be fair enough...?
Thanks for the input. I haven't had to fill a position in 10 years... and I'm dreading it!
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Post by fu on Sept 12, 2014 10:37:35 GMT -5
Has anyone ever filled a position from this board? And wondering if its usually up to the Supervisor to get the position filled or do Company's help find someone. I think 30 days notice should be fair enough...? Thanks for the input. I haven't had to fill a position in 10 years... and I'm dreading it! It's usually up to the supervisor. Contact the company though as they might have some resumes on file. |
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Post by snowspinner on Sept 12, 2014 10:41:53 GMT -5
I had my old supervisor and a part time person leave at the same time...it was crazy for a while. The contractor let me try to find local people...they said if I needed help to let them know.
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Post by weatheri on Sept 12, 2014 10:46:43 GMT -5
Has anyone ever filled a position from this board? And wondering if its usually up to the Supervisor to get the position filled or do Company's help find someone. I think 30 days notice should be fair enough...? Thanks for the input. I haven't had to fill a position in 10 years... and I'm dreading it! It has been my experience, that usually the supervisor notifies contractor that someone is leaving Contractor asks if the supervisor has someone in mind with resume Position is advertised on the various boards if no resumes are on file Resume(s) sent to Contractor for a thumbs up or down Once you have a thumbs up or a person selected by the contractor, the supervisor starts the process I forgot to include the time it takes for this process in your initial question. This can be as short as 1 day or a cumbersome process if there are no resumes on file. If you are getting ready to undergo this, Good Luck! |
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cirrus
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Post by cirrus on Sept 12, 2014 10:50:18 GMT -5
Snowspinner... I'm curious how you guys handled the supervisor leaving?
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Post by snowspinner on Sept 12, 2014 11:21:13 GMT -5
My old supervisor took a position in KATL so he could be closer to his dad. After he left I got promoted to the supervisor position. One of the part time observers became full time so now I needed to hire 2 part time observers. It took a while but we got it done...until it was done, all of the full time observers worked a day on the weekend.
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cirrus
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Post by cirrus on Sept 12, 2014 12:09:11 GMT -5
Do you remember how long it took to fill those two position? And was overtime an issue while you waited
for new hire? Most companies freak out if any overtime is created, but I guess there is no choice
when you are understaffed.
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Post by snowspinner on Sept 12, 2014 13:34:28 GMT -5
Believe it or not there was no overtime. I know it sucks but having the full time observers work a day on the weekend was huge. The part time observers would cover the shifts during the week...it took about 2-3 months...it might be longer now with the FAA doing the test.
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cirrus
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Post by cirrus on Sept 12, 2014 14:18:10 GMT -5
Another Question: If an applicant is LAWRS certified, are they required to take the
WX Observation Exam before hired?
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Post by alstein on Oct 10, 2014 11:14:47 GMT -5
Our site has been looking for a PT person for almost a year, with no one qualified coming in.
It's getting to the point where overtime may be needed.
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Post by kukblue1 on Oct 13, 2014 21:13:25 GMT -5
On a side note how many people do must stations run with. Ours has 6 works out well. I was at another station that had 5 for almost a year before it closed. Wasn't bad as we were all flexible with our schedules I have a friend working at a station with 8.
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Post by tornado on Oct 15, 2014 8:13:32 GMT -5
We had 8 observers, until another contractor took over, and told us to retain only 6 of them. That contractor lasted less than 6 months, and we are back to 8 observers. That contractor also had to pay out overtime on 2 occasions, because of the short staffing during vacation.
Having said that, I worked part-time at a nearby site for awhile. I told the supervisor there, that once I got married, I wanted to cut down on my hours. He took off and went to another site, and then someone else left. That site was left with 3 full-timers, plus me. Suffice it to say I couldn't reduce my hours at that 2nd site for awhile...
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