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Post by skobie on Nov 13, 2015 14:54:22 GMT -5
Enjoy. I hope you can read what the responses should have been from the FAA (in red). I couldn't help getting a little sarcastic at the end after the umteenth question that the FAA did not answer or gave an answer to a completely different question. In all seriousness, we need to come up with questions similar to these (but reworded to get better answers) and more that the FAA cannot sidestep and send them to the AAAE who has asked airport managers to send them questions, but I'm willing to guess that they'll accept our questions as many airport managers might be uninformed until recently and are trying to get their heads around the situation or don't know the questions to ask that we do from job experience. Consort with each other through PMs and send questions to: Justin.Towles@aaae.org edited FAQ - HWO Initiative Site-Specific SRMP.pdf (3.11 MB)
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Post by tornado on Nov 13, 2015 15:23:00 GMT -5
To your point about the LAWRS performing a Basic Weather Watch: I'd say the Limited in LAWRS means a Limited Weather Watch is actually a category below Basic Weather Watch. As in, "we'll report a thunderstorm when we can get to it". Other elements missing and not being reported, would qualify as the Limited Weather Watch.
A Basic Weather Watch would require backing up data: While a few level C sites report the data above, many don't. Some level D data also goes missing at level C sites at times, such as:
The day they shut down 13 weather stations, on 1 May 2013, Mobile Alabama (KMOB) had missing altimeters that were not backed up. There are hundreds of examples of other required data that goes missing at LAWRS sites.
LAWRS is a de facto Limited Weather Watch. Perhaps we ought to start using that term.
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Post by skobie on Nov 13, 2015 21:02:36 GMT -5
I agree that we're finding out that LAWRS sites have basically defined their own new type of weather observation as a "Limited Weather Watch" In other words, a Basic Weather Watch doesn't even apply to these LAWRS stations, as there's no consequences for not properly performing weather observing duties anyway, so it's become common accepted practice to not back up equipment or check/resend ASOS transmissions.
The statement you referenced "LAWRS observers are not required to back up the observation if measuring or observing equipment is not available", however, doesn't mean every LAWRS site isn't equipped to back up an OTS instrument or re-sending an ASOS transmission that failed for whatever reason (including ASOS being down altogether), it just means these LAWRS guys either don't want to back-up equipment/ASOS or don't have time to. All the same, it's all bullshit as these poor or missing LAWRS observations have become all too common and no one seems to care for some reason (and makes me wonder if the FAA powers that be even know what a quality observation is as they seem to truly believe that there is no degradation of service or figure if they say it enough that they will believe it anyway).
We really need to hammer this stuff home to airport management, Congressional leaders, Industry Groups, and anyone else of importance and we have the evidence here to do it.
skobie
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