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Post by toofarnorth on Dec 9, 2015 14:40:57 GMT -5
"This is the face of evil." POTUS, in the context of terrorism. Applies here.
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Post by skobie on Dec 10, 2015 9:22:15 GMT -5
OK, so we've heard the crappy news on Burlington, VT (BTV) and Manchester, NH (MHT), but from what I understand San Jose, CA (SJC), Fresno, CA (FAT), Billings, MT (BIL), Reno-Tahoe, NV (RNO), and Portland, ME (PWM) all should have had their local SRMs over the last couple of days.
What were the results if you're from these stations? Were you allowed to attend? I'm particularly interested to hear from the FAA Western Region sites to see if the FAA attitude of "sure, we can do weather observations too, no problem" is any different. Someone's got to have some backbone in that agency. PM me if you don't wish to speak so publicly.
skobie
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Post by tornado on Dec 10, 2015 9:45:21 GMT -5
Considering that Burlington and Manchester are the largest cities in their states (would also apply to Billings and Portland ME), one would think the
Congressional delegations from those states, would be on board with trying to keep those sites open. Hopefully it's not too late for Congress to stop this.
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Post by fzraman on Dec 10, 2015 11:53:35 GMT -5
OK, so we've heard the crappy news on Burlington, VT (BTV) and Manchester, NH (MHT), but from what I understand San Jose, CA (SJC), Fresno, CA (FAT), Billings, MT (BIL), Reno-Tahoe, NV (RNO), and Portland, ME (PWM) all should have had their local SRMs over the last couple of days. What were the results if you're from these stations? Were you allowed to attend? I'm particularly interested to hear from the FAA Western Region sites to see if the FAA attitude of "sure, we can do weather observations too, no problem" is any different. Someone's got to have some backbone in that agency. PM me if you don't wish to speak so publicly. skobie I'm curious if timeliness and liability issues are raised by airport management when it comes to reporting freezing Precipitation! If there is a mishap who takes the hit if it's not in the official observation! |
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Post by toofarnorth on Dec 10, 2015 14:17:54 GMT -5
It will be called "pilot error".
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Post by sleemans on Dec 10, 2015 16:06:20 GMT -5
On the 17th of December, Syracuse NY (SYR) is having their SRM meeting without our senior weather observer invited. Only with ATC and the commissioner and other stakeholders (major airlines, national guard etc.) are invited.
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Post by snowwx on Dec 10, 2015 22:57:54 GMT -5
The dismantling of the CWO program is typical of this administrations tactics....From the top down, it's like Chicago politics...From the executive branch to the FAA...Secrets, under the table decisions, corruption, and this reminds me of what happened to Miegs field...Dead of night ...destroy it when nobody is around and say oh well, its done already and we cant do anything about it...The FAA is an agency that needs to be cleaned out by the next administration...Like one presidential candidate has said..." We are dealing with very stupid people in Washington..."" in this case of the FAA i think its stupid but they are smart A#$ss that think they know more than anyone else...
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Post by weatherwatcher on Dec 11, 2015 7:53:27 GMT -5
I totally agree snowwx. All this sounds like a setup to me. I was informed by the ATM that it was specifically stated that I as the SWO was NOT to be invited.
What are they afraid of? Someone making sense?
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Post by snowspinner on Dec 11, 2015 10:13:41 GMT -5
As the SWO at my site...I'm not sure I could go and just sit there while the FAA tells lie after lie...they would have to put several layers of duct tape over my mouth!!
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Post by weatheri on Dec 11, 2015 12:55:38 GMT -5
The stake holders need to be asking for the documents.
The FAA states, LAWRS towers produce quality observations.
What are the specific standards used to measure quality?
What is the sample size?
Where are the statistics for the past FY?
What steps did you take for corrective action?
Were those steps successful?
If not, what other steps were taken?
Did those work?
Where can I look at these statistics?
When the new LAWRS sites come on board, can I see your QC Plan to ensure each site is effective?
Where will you post the monthly and quarterly results?
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Post by toofarnorth on Dec 11, 2015 15:41:15 GMT -5
Agreed Weatheri - all of us need to be making sure the stakeholders are prepared to ask (and answer) these questions.
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Post by fzraman on Dec 15, 2015 20:08:31 GMT -5
Another one bites the dust. I'm now hearing that, despite the Lead Observer actually being invited and present (though not allowed to speak unless spoken to), Manchester, NH also crashed and burned. Apparently, there were very few airlines present at the meeting that was mostly dominated by ATC and FAA personnel and the FAA folk dismantled every concern that was brought up (in their own deviant and foolish way I'm sure). At any rate, the FAA decided unilaterally again that Manchester can become LAWRS, just like Burlington, VT. In Burlington, the Lead was not even invited interestingly, so I'm already seeing discrepencies on weather a CWO gets invited or not in the FAA Eastern Region. skobie The FAA A/FD publication already says MHT is LAWRS. They are as bad at keeping there pubs current as they are at taking observations or were they making predictions. |
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