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Post by snowspinner on May 5, 2016 10:57:25 GMT -5
Is a low level cloud required when reporting a DSNT CB or TCU? Are there any exceptions?
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Post by weatherwatcher on May 5, 2016 11:12:49 GMT -5
Yes. It is required.
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Post by kukblue1 on May 17, 2016 16:56:49 GMT -5
SMH. This drives me crazy. If it's 70 miles away and all you can see is the white bubbling CB are you really going to be able to see the base? Also here in Oklahoma we have high based storms yet still get in trouble if we put the base above 6,500. Better question would be is it ok just to make up a cloud deck?
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Post by hlsto2 on May 17, 2016 18:58:37 GMT -5
who gives you a hard time about reporting low cloud bases above 6500 feet? let me quess, die hard ex-military observers. the other night I could see continuous ltg coming from a CB 100 miles away. can't ignore it if you can see it. I try and call up a few sites near the CB to estimate a base. otherwise, best educated stimate
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Post by alstein on May 17, 2016 20:24:32 GMT -5
those ex-mil observers accept it for high-based western TS's unless they're Sergeant McDumbs.
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Post by coldairfunnel on May 18, 2016 10:15:34 GMT -5
I have always thought it rediculous to report clouds in the body of the METAR that is 50-100 miles away (celestial dome). One would assume when reading the METAR that the reported cloud base is at the airport when, in fact, they are not. Why not just say CLR in the body of the METAR and FEW040 DSNT N or FEW040CB DSNT N? I believe that would be more indicative as to what is actually occurring.
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Post by TCU 2U2 on May 18, 2016 10:20:31 GMT -5
I have always thought it rediculous to report clouds in the body of the METAR that is 50-100 miles away (celestial dome). One would assume when reading the METAR that the reported cloud base is at the airport when, in fact, they are not. Why not just say CLR in the body of the METAR and FEW040 DSNT N or FEW040CB DSNT N? I believe that would be more indicative as to what is actually occurring. Like in the 90's ... we could carry remarks like this with clear skies in the body: FEW CU FRMG W-N FEW STFRA VCNTY OF STN S FEW CB DSNT E Unfortunately the NWS handed off the program to an agency that is not qualified to handle anything weather observation related. |
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Post by hlsto2 on May 18, 2016 10:42:46 GMT -5
in manual obs days FEW was less than 1/10 and only went in remarks as above examples. we still had to enter 0 CU 030 on the B side of the form.
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Post by coldairfunnel on May 18, 2016 11:21:03 GMT -5
I always feel silly entering clouds in the body of the METAR that are so far away you can barely see them. The unknowing obstrollers probably think we are dumb asses....
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Post by coldairfunnel on May 18, 2016 12:00:45 GMT -5
Like in the 90's ... we could carry remarks like this with clear skies in the body:
Those were the good old days...bring back manual observations and send ASOS to the junk pile...
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Post by toofarnorth on May 18, 2016 16:25:07 GMT -5
Better to use the junked metal to build gallows for the geniuses who invented and promoted such wimpy junk then sold it to the govt - they should be part of the hangin' - say, do we think there is enough units to make that many gallows?
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Post by kukblue1 on May 19, 2016 17:39:53 GMT -5
there are contractors out there they even say CB must be below 6,5000 ft. Even though I was OVC all day at 9,000 then had TS near by and everyone else was that height it was still frowned a pond. That is way anything over 60 miles I try and leave out. However at night it's hard to ignore when you have a huge CB with Cons LTG.
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Post by tornado on May 19, 2016 17:46:48 GMT -5
From the NWS glossary:
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