sunny9
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Post by sunny9 on Jul 20, 2018 22:11:40 GMT -5
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Post by hlsto2 on Jul 21, 2018 10:42:12 GMT -5
first notification from the faa indicated a remark: GR LESS THAN 1/4 would be required for hail <1/4". I see somebody finally came to their senses and decided that NO remark would be required for small hail...duh
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Post by tornado on Aug 1, 2018 9:33:47 GMT -5
How many LAWRS sites that get 3/4" hail, will omit the remark, therefore causing the erroneous assumption that the hail is small?  |
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Post by alstein on Aug 1, 2018 11:36:26 GMT -5
They'll report it as UP.
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Post by weatherwatcher on Aug 1, 2018 11:47:50 GMT -5
no degradation
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Post by northwx on Aug 1, 2018 16:00:26 GMT -5
and Joe thought we were reporting pellets as IP...
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sunny9
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Post by sunny9 on Aug 2, 2018 23:07:42 GMT -5
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Post by hlsto2 on Aug 3, 2018 0:47:04 GMT -5
there is supposed to be a cor on this so that hail less than 1/4" (GR LESS THAN 1/4 INCH) is not reported in remarks. the NWS and FA and A geniuses finally figured out that the absence of a remark would indicate the hail was less than 1/4" in diameter...
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Post by TCU 2U2 on Aug 3, 2018 7:14:34 GMT -5
there is supposed to be a cor on this so that hail less than 1/4" (GR LESS THAN 1/4 INCH) is not reported in remarks. the NWS and FA and A geniuses finally figured out that the absence of a remark would indicate the hail was less than 1/4" in diameter... Only concern I see is if the observer (CWO or LAWRS) forgets to enter a size. The end users would (rightfully) assume the largest stones were less than 1/4 inch, when in reality they could be much larger. Best solution would have been for ALL sizes to be entered; GR 1/16, GR 1/8, GR 1/4, GR 1/2, etc. |
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Post by hlsto2 on Aug 3, 2018 10:30:51 GMT -5
don't think a CWO would forget...as for LAWRS..very few enter hail...period.
wonder why they didn't LEAVE GS for small hail and create another contraction for snow pellets...SP??
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Post by northwx on Aug 3, 2018 17:15:56 GMT -5
Neither spelling nor common sense seem to be their strong suits. We'd like ASLOP to be able to handle SG and IC also... Maybe they're listening (IP).
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Post by hlsto2 on Aug 5, 2018 12:50:14 GMT -5
this is the disaster we get when people trained to talk to pilots or MAY have neen LAWRS...key word Limited...write technical manuals. it would be like a carpenter writing a manual on brain surgery.
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Post by wxornot on Nov 14, 2018 8:31:33 GMT -5
Question, I'm a little confused on this issue. So former Ice Pellets, Sleet will now be reported as GR with GR LESS THAN 1/4 in remarks?
With winter weather on the doorstep just want to get it right. Thanks in advance.
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Post by zoomthundersnow on Nov 14, 2018 9:01:27 GMT -5
Ice Pellets are still reported as PL. Snow Pellets are reported as GS, intensity for GS must be manually encoded into RMKS, "GS LGT", "GS MOD", or "GS HVY." All Hail is GR now, the only time GR LESS THAN 1/4 is reported in RMKS is for Hail less than 1/4 diameter.
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Post by skobie on Nov 14, 2018 10:18:26 GMT -5
I don't believe you need the "GR LESS THAN 1/4" remark if hail is in fact less than 1/4" as it's assumed. Correct me if I'm wrong HLSTO or Tornado or TCU2U2.....
skobie
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