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Post by weatherwatcher on Oct 29, 2015 8:00:51 GMT -5
Has ANYONE heard ANYTHING from our OWN union? Not just the ATC union? Unbelievable!!
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Post by ralph on Oct 29, 2015 9:06:30 GMT -5
Has ANYONE heard ANYTHING from our OWN union? Not just the ATC union? Unbelievable!! PATCO Has gone lame after Jerry Tuso retired, Jerry did not always have answers for us but he always returned calls or email's , unlike the new guy Sam.
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Post by Prplra on Oct 29, 2015 9:24:32 GMT -5
In the past 10 days at least 3 observers at this office have sent emails to Sam - he has not responded/replied to any of them. This is not the first time this has happened. The only "negotiating" he did for us was to tell our contractor that he would NOT negotiate a pay raise for FY 2016. I looked into cancelling my union membership since I can get more for my money with a few trips to Starbucks each month. Unfortunately, there is only a 5-day window in which to resign and I missed it. We may not be here for the next window of opportunity, but I won't miss it if we're still here. Miss you, Jerry T.
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Post by skobie on Oct 29, 2015 10:33:22 GMT -5
This is why we need to negotiate for our own sites, particularly when people that we need to contact are unresponsive. It's really better for everybody. Not to mention when you need them for what's been going on lately and there's no one home. Not good. Just my 2 cents.
skobie
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Post by toofarnorth on Oct 29, 2015 15:47:28 GMT -5
I've been leaving messages on Sam's cell - he's not returning calls... Anyone know how to force a union vote to replace him? Or is someone willing to talk to NATCA about taking us on to represent us instead of PATCO? NLRB can arrange for a switch election (it's called "decertification")... If anyone can get NATCA to agree, I think we may be better represented with the closure question - if this happens, please let everyone know so we can switch too. PATCO did us fine with the wages and CBA, but where are you Sam?
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Post by lostsheep on Oct 29, 2015 16:24:38 GMT -5
Where is anyone from PATCO? I emailed Sam a while back but received no response. We talked about decertification here but I believe there's a window to do it and that has passed. Might be a mute point at this stage. We did get a small increase in our base pay but no incease in H&W. No paper work though which I find odd being it was between our contractor and PATCO!!! I'd be shocked if anyone hears from PATCO!!! So much for our fearless leaders in PATCO.
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Post by toofarnorth on Oct 29, 2015 16:33:53 GMT -5
Hold the bus on decert... Just talked to Sam after trying again - we (officially public news) have Jerry Tuso now working on the station closure issue (nothing else) - PATCO and FPD believe he has the experience and contacts to make a difference for us. I asked about the apparent lack of newsletters - Sam said they had been sent out - anyone get one since last Spring? Sam wants me to contact FPD for newsletter issues. Maybe instead of being angry that we can't get through to them, we should consider merging PATCO with NATCA? The AFL-CIO route looks like a winner too. Ideas? - WE ARE the union.
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Post by fu on Oct 29, 2015 17:10:51 GMT -5
Sam is full of it. Jerry offered to come back months ago to lend a hand but they (PATCO) didn't want to pay him. Now that everyone's caught onto Sam's scam and bailing on PAYCO he wants Jerry to save his ass. Good luck to Tuso but it's probably too little too late. Why do you have to contact FPD about newsletter problems? Does Sam do anything at all? Hold the bus on decert... Just talked to Sam after trying again - we (officially public news) have Jerry Tuso now working on the station closure issue (nothing else) - PATCO and FPD believe he has the experience and contacts to make a difference for us. I asked about the apparent lack of newsletters - Sam said they had been sent out - anyone get one since last Spring? Sam wants me to contact FPD for newsletter issues. Maybe instead of being angry that we can't get through to them, we should consider merging PATCO with NATCA? The AFL-CIO route looks like a winner too. Ideas? - WE ARE the union.
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Post by w0x on Oct 31, 2015 19:34:50 GMT -5
This is why we need to negotiate for our own sites, particularly when people that we need to contact are unresponsive. It's really better for everybody. Not to mention when you need them for what's been going on lately and there's no one home. Not good. Just my 2 cents. skobie This group.....looks like they can communicate. teamsterair.org/about/who-we-represent
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Post by Little Miss Sunshine on Nov 3, 2015 7:27:18 GMT -5
Mr Sam N. & Mr Mark N. (related one can assume?), invoked the pay freeze for this contract year. Can we assume this action has prevented the FAA from closing the sites, at least in the short term? If so, this was a well educated move.
Do we have PATCO representation here on this forum as it would be wise to remain engaged with the field offices during this time.
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Post by coldairfunnel on Nov 3, 2015 9:37:00 GMT -5
Mr Sam N. & Mr Mark N. (related one can assume?), invoked the pay freeze for this contract year. Can we assume this action has prevented the FAA from closing the sites, at least in the short term? If so, this was a well educated move. Do we have PATCO representation here on this forum as it would be wise to remain engaged with the field offices during this time. Someone fed you some wrong information.....my site received a pay raise beginning on Oct 1, 2015 and I know of at least two other sites where I know people that also received a raise. One of the sites that received a raise is one of the 57 sites scheduled to close. I originally thought only the 57 sites didn't receive a raise. So now it looks like PATCO just didn't negotiate a raise for some of you.....
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Post by Little Miss Sunshine on Nov 3, 2015 9:46:16 GMT -5
Mr Sam N. & Mr Mark N. (related one can assume?), invoked the pay freeze for this contract year. Can we assume this action has prevented the FAA from closing the sites, at least in the short term? If so, this was a well educated move. Do we have PATCO representation here on this forum as it would be wise to remain engaged with the field offices during this time. Someone fed you some wrong information.....my site received a pay raise beginning on Oct 1, 2015 and I know of at least two other sites where I know people that also received a raise. WOW !!! We were under the impression that this freeze or whatever it shall be called, would affect all sites and it would be for the good of the program. We never had a vote on the issue either. How can some sites get an increase while others do not? I hope we are talking same union here, the one that Mr Tuso use to run but now been the sam and mark show for at least a year or longer.
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Post by fu on Nov 3, 2015 9:52:39 GMT -5
Never heard of any pay freeze miss sunshine. New wages started Oct. 1.
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Post by weatherwatcher on Nov 3, 2015 9:53:59 GMT -5
Tuso negotiated the raises two years ago. This October was the last installment
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Post by weatherwatcher on Nov 3, 2015 9:58:01 GMT -5
We were told 2 years ago that non union sites wouldnt get a pay raise so we all joined.
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