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Post by skobie on Nov 3, 2015 10:04:45 GMT -5
Wages could have been negotiated 2 years ago with a prior contractor or even with the new contractor, but not every weather site has the same CBA and the same beginning/ending times in the CBA. In other words, some site wages (only talking about Union sites here as non-union sites have to rely on the wage determination for any increases.....good luck with that by the way) could be only negotiated year to year or it's possible that some sites this year were at the end of their CBA.
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Post by fu on Nov 3, 2015 10:12:25 GMT -5
Sam is the last person you want negotiating for your site. Was the wage freeze was his idea?
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Post by toofarnorth on Nov 3, 2015 16:39:51 GMT -5
Wage freeze was from FAA, the Obam, and the USDOL. PATCO can't represent non-PATCO-member sites. Fu, or should I call you Coco?, Sam certainly isn't perfect - neither are you and I - but I've found his negotiations with our contractor to be competent and beneficial in a budget-cutting environment. We got 3% pay raises for each year of a four-year contract.
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Post by fu on Nov 3, 2015 16:58:30 GMT -5
Wage freeze was from FAA, the Obam, and the USDOL. PATCO can't represent non-PATCO-member sites. Fu, or should I call you Coco?, Sam certainly isn't perfect - neither are you and I - but I've found his negotiations with our contractor to be competent and beneficial in a budget-cutting environment. We got 3% pay raises for each year of a four-year contract. Plenty of PATCO sites are still working off of last year's wages TFN. It was one of Sam's bright ideas. FAA didn't seem to give a shit about it when they started the closure plan back up a couple of weeks ago.
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Post by Little Miss Sunshine on Nov 3, 2015 16:58:16 GMT -5
Wage freeze was from FAA, the Obam, and the USDOL. PATCO can't represent non-PATCO-member sites. Fu, or should I call you Coco?, Sam certainly isn't perfect - neither are you and I - but I've found his negotiations with our contractor to be competent and beneficial in a budget-cutting environment. We got 3% pay raises for each year of a four-year contract. We are at a patco site and we are under a pay freeze, with word that it will be made up next year. From doing a bit of legwork we are beginning to see that any pay increase this year was only achived from multi-year deals when Mr Tuso was still at the head. Seems to us anyway that any airport that did not have more than a 1 year deal in wages from last year did not get one this year as no new wages were dealt with between the new patco heads and the companies. I doubt the FAA commanded patco not to negotiate as that would be a major conflict of interest and likely against the labor laws.
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Post by w0x on Nov 3, 2015 20:14:45 GMT -5
Never heard of any pay freeze miss sunshine. New wages started Oct. 1. Same here... Oct 1st, 2015 as it has been each year.
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Post by Prplra on Nov 6, 2015 19:15:53 GMT -5
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Post by ralph on Dec 14, 2015 18:32:34 GMT -5
Has anyone heard if PATCO is doing anything to help us out with closer's. its been over a month not heard anything Or are they still missing.
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Post by wedthered on Dec 14, 2015 22:52:45 GMT -5
They should at least try and negotiate some sort of severance pay package. Even our lousy SEIU contract had a severance clause when we were downsized when ASOS came in 16 years ago at the small airport I was working at. We got 1 weeks pay for each year of service. It wasn't great, but at least it was something.
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Post by wethurgeek on Dec 15, 2015 13:52:47 GMT -5
Has anyone heard if PATCO is doing anything to help us out with closer's. its been over a month not heard anything Or are they still missing. I spoke to Sam last month, they're really trying to hit the FAA and NATCA with collusion, if that doesn't work they will keep hitting them on all the other stuff. If they nail them on collusion then they believe it has a chance to make all of this go away. They are working hard on our behalf and I have told them that they need to step up their communication with us. Also they will be restarting the news letters, but they will be quarterly, and the person that used to facilitate the letters is no longer there so it's a work in progress.
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Post by toofarnorth on Dec 15, 2015 17:47:44 GMT -5
Thanks for the news wethurgeek. I've been trying not to bug Sam too much and he doesn't do newsletters.
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Post by weatherwatcher on Feb 3, 2016 13:53:42 GMT -5
Where are the news letters? Where is the communication with us? Our dues are still coming out EVERY pay period.
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Post by wxobsrvrsince65 on Feb 3, 2016 21:17:25 GMT -5
PATCO is helping us currently in the battle against further closures of CWO sites. Congress only listens to real UNIONs, who have lobbyests, and that is the game Congress is used to, and plays.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2016 8:14:10 GMT -5
Where are the news letters? Where is the communication with us? Our dues are still coming out EVERY pay period. Several have canceled membership with Patco at our station last month due to lack of communication and support and can never get ahold of them, the rest may terminate soon as well. They could not see the value for dues coming out every pay period.
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Post by skobie on Mar 23, 2016 10:19:38 GMT -5
imlate, does that mean that your CBA terminates as well or are you in a right-to-work-state? I'm curious.
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