binovc
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Post by binovc on Oct 3, 2021 6:21:59 GMT -5
My 2 cents. And it turned out longer than I'd hoped. And I probably wouldn't have posted until Northwx stated to Alwayswx that "we don't agree with you or your assessments or the media you consume."
I'm part of "we" and, well, I personally agree with more of Alwayswx than Northwx postings in this thread. I don't know either, don't know where they work or what their jobs are, and I doubt if either one is some kind of "imposter." Lets be mindful about assuming who is what, and about making accusations.
No one "likes" mandates. They become necessary when voluntary compliance (from those who fail to see the big picture - or just don't care about it) doesn't work when "bad stuff" threatens the general population. Our laws are full of mandates. Seatbelts? No-smoking areas? List is long. Going out on a limb here, but I believe if everyone voluntarily masked-up and physically-distanced from the beginning, and didn't stop prematurely, this would all have been over a long time ago. But you just can't tell people.
Developing herd immunity through exposure means being comfortable with all the resultant deaths. I'm not.
Covid only slightly more deadly than the the common flu? I'm sure some news reports this, but most say "substantially" more deadly. And it's no hoax that hospitals in many states are running out of beds. Sure, most patients recover. And granted, "most" Covid fatalities may be attributed to persons with pre-existing health conditions. But most of them wouldn't have succumbed to their pre-existing conditions without Covid.
And what about the resources expended, risk imposed upon those dealing with it, unavailable services for those needing other medical attention, because the (predominantly un-vaccinated) covid patients are filling up the hospitals? "My body my choice" is fine when you aren't likely to affect everyone around you.
Everything I have read says that the Covid vaccine does reduce transmission. Again, I'm sure some news disputes this.
It's sad that a virus has become politicized. But I guess most everything is.
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Post by northwx on Oct 4, 2021 18:33:28 GMT -5
Alwayswx, we've done pretty well at not being partisan on this board - we attack issues and lies, occasionally liars, and when we have been partisan we've done pretty well at getting along and respecting people no matter their politics. You seem to be the exception. We can't afford here on this board or for the long-term viability of the program to be partisan hacks. We lobby both sides of the aisle. Help us or get out of the way. Your modus operandi sounds like you've been reading Saul Alinsky's Rules For Radicals.
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Post by northwx on Oct 11, 2021 18:40:05 GMT -5
They're moving the goalposts... December 8 is now November 22 for full compliance. And they're asking the SWOs to do the compliance monitoring - my guess why is to avoid HIPAA violations. I'm not going to lie for anyone, but this is not good for morale if you have unvaxxed employees at your station.
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wxguy
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Post by wxguy on Oct 11, 2021 20:35:36 GMT -5
Is this confirmed? I don't see any news updates on the task force website. This will place a huge burden on the SWO for verifying covid tests, exemptions, etc. Not sure how that's even possible to be honest.
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auto
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Post by auto on Oct 12, 2021 7:20:27 GMT -5
Aren't sites already doing this? Our site swo requires negative test for unvaccinated or your not allowed to work.
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Post by northwx on Oct 12, 2021 14:21:26 GMT -5
Is this confirmed? I don't see any news updates on the task force website. This will place a huge burden on the SWO for verifying covid tests, exemptions, etc. Not sure how that's even possible to be honest. My info source is an email sent to me by my contractor referencing email conversation with Jeffrey Baker 9-AFN-ACQ-EM (FAA) asking & answering questions brought forth by other employees dated 10/08/21. We can do it, and yes it is a burden, but logistically speaking it makes the most sense of trying to manage this. I'm more concerned about HIPAA violations and us getting in trouble for the info we're collecting if any authority demands we show it to them - if it stays in our offices and doesn't get revealed we're okay, but I suspect we need a HIPAA statement of how this info will be handled initialed by each employee. The employees have a right to know, but I think this is too new for the contractors to have a firm policy on this yet - it is coming. Any contractor that tries to resist will lose their contracts. |
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Post by alstein on Oct 12, 2021 15:21:15 GMT -5
HIPAA is for healthcare providers, not others, it doesn't apply here.
The contractors will want to just check the box, they'll do it with the minimal fuss possible.
Auto, is that test requirement for vaxxed folks as well, if it was I'd balk at it.
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Post by auto on Oct 12, 2021 15:50:32 GMT -5
HIPAA is for healthcare providers, not others, it doesn't apply here. The contractors will want to just check the box, they'll do it with the minimal fuss possible. Auto, is that test requirement for vaxxed folks as well, if it was I'd balk at it. No. Unvaccinated only. |
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Post by northwx on Oct 13, 2021 17:29:59 GMT -5
HIPAA applies to everyone collecting health care info.
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auto
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Post by auto on Oct 13, 2021 18:38:26 GMT -5
HIPAA applies to everyone collecting health care info. About Hipaa  |
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Post by alwayswx on Oct 13, 2021 19:36:46 GMT -5
Organizations that do not have to follow the government's privacy rule known as the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA) include the following, according to the US Department of Health and Human Services: Life insurers. Employers. Workers' compensation carriers.
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Post by stardustwx on Oct 14, 2021 10:27:13 GMT -5
THE QUESTION Do the White House, the CDC, the FDA, the WHO, Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson have employee vaccine mandates? THE ANSWER Six of the seven organizations have employee vaccine mandates. The only organization on this list without a mandate for employees is the WHO. To increase vaccination coverage and protect more people from COVID-19, including the more transmissible Delta variant, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) will require more than 25,000 members of its health care workforce to be vaccinated against COVID-19.Aug 12, 2021 I wish ya'll would stop calling this a typcal vaccine. It's an mRNA and per the CDC website, it is NOT a "vaccine". As for people getting fired over this...only if there is a contractor that cares to check. There are a few vendors that don't bother to stay in contact with their sites for ANY reason. " As for "mandates"...it's totally BS. It is NOT for the benefit of others to be vaxxed. It is ONLY about power. How interesting few died from flu, and some that died "from" COVID died FROM something else and contracted COVID while in the hospital. Oh, then there is the false positives out there. Yes, some die FROM covid, I know a few however, it's a money maker for many and afterall, you can't let a good crisis go to waste.... Oh yea, I took the jab...by MY choice, not the government |
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Post by stardustwx on Oct 14, 2021 10:29:05 GMT -5
Aren't sites already doing this? Our site swo requires negative test for unvaccinated or your not allowed to work. Whoa, was that a arbitrary decision by the SWO? |
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Post by w0x on Oct 14, 2021 11:49:20 GMT -5
THE QUESTION I wish ya'll would stop calling this a typcal vaccine. It's an mRNA and per the CDC website, it is NOT a "vaccine". "Vaccine" is so much easier than" mRNA gene modification"! Sounds safer also. |
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Post by auto on Oct 14, 2021 11:58:00 GMT -5
Aren't sites already doing this? Our site swo requires negative test for unvaccinated or your not allowed to work. Whoa, was that a arbitrary decision by the SWO? Swo going by the guidance posted above, sent from contractor. |
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